[I. Call to Order]
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PROCEDURES OF THIS COMMISSION FOLLOWS IN THE CONDUCT OF ITS MEETINGS.
APPLICANTS ARE GIVEN TIME TO PRESENT THEIR CASE WHEN THEIR APPLICATION IS CALLED.
PLEASE BE SURE TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE BEGINNING YOUR REMARKS.
OPPOSING PARTIES ARE NOT GRANTED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL.
WHILE WE DO NOT FORMALLY LIMIT THE TIME FOR MULTIPLE PARTIES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO AN APPLICATION, WE DO ASK SPEAKERS TO REFRAIN FROM SPENDING TIME REPEATING ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED.
INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS ARE ALSO ASKED TO BE AS CONCISE AS THEY CAN WHEN MAKING THEIR REMARKS.
ONCE ALL INTERESTED PARTIES HAVE BEEN HEARD, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE APPLICATION.
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ANY APPLAUSE OR DIALOG DURING OR AFTER PRESENTATIONS.
PLEASE SHOW THE SAME RESPECT TO ANYONE WHO IS SPEAKING THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO RECEIVE YOURSELF.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION RENDERS FINAL DECISIONS ON SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS, BUT IT MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS ON ALL OTHER APPLICATIONS TO THE CITY COMMISSION, WHICH HAS FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY ON THOSE CASES.
GOOD EVENING. I'M GREG CHILIK.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL TURN OUR ATTENTION TO THE AGENDA.
[II. Old Business: a. Approval of Minutes from March 8, 2022 regularly scheduled meeting.]
CASES TO REVIEW ON.HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THEM? ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED? MOTION TO APPROVE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? VERIFY THAT I WAS IN THE MEETING.
[LAUGHTER] IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE ACCEPT THE AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 8TH MEETING AS PRESENTED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE ALL IN FAVOR SIGNAL BY SAYING AYE.
ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION CARRIES.
AND JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION OF THE RECORDS, WHO SECONDED THE MOTION? THAT WAS JOE. RIGHT? NO, I WAS ACTUALLY NOT SECONDING IT.
WELL, JOE STARTED TOO, BUT IF HE WASN'T THERE, I CAN SECOND THE MOTION.
[LAUGHTER] WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED FROM THE MARCH 8TH MEETING.
I WILL PUT FORTH THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE MOTION? HEARING NONE ALL IN FAVOR SIGNALED BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.
GREAT. THANK YOU. GOT IT DONE THAT TIME.
THAT BRINGS US TO NEW BUSINESS.
[III. New Business: a. The City of Decatur Community and Economic Development Department has requested a conditional use permit for a proposed multi-family dwelling use in an IInstitutional zoning district for the property located at 700-722 South Columbia Drive.]
AND THIS IS AN APPLICATION WHERE THE CITY OF DECATUR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS REQUESTED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING USE IN AN I INSTITUTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 700 TO 722 SOUTH COLUMBIA DRIVE.DO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICATION? SO MYSELF, ANGELA THREADGILL IS SERVING AS THE APPLICANT TO THIS APPLICATION.
THE CITY OF DECATUR IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 700-722 SOUTH COLUMBIA DRIVE.
AND SO I AM REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE CITY OF DECATUR IN PRESENTING THIS APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND IS AS WELL, WE ARE REQUESTING A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
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SO I'M GOING TO AT THIS TIME GO THROUGH SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT APPLICATION.I WILL NOT GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE DETAIL, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME GENERAL SITE AND PROJECT INFORMATION, THIS DEVELOPMENT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY SIX ACRES LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LEGACY PARK.
IT'S AT THE CORNER OF KATIE KERR DRIVE AND SOUTH COLUMBIA DRIVE.
AND OF COURSE IT'S PART OF THE OVERALL LEGACY PARK, WHICH IS A 77 ACRE PARCEL.
BUT THE LAND ON WHICH THE VILLAGE AT LEGACY, WHICH IS WHAT THE PROJECT IS CALLED, IS KIND OF SEPARATED OFF THE LARGER LEGACY PARK CONTINUES TO BE OWNED BY THE PUBLIC FACILITIES AUTHORITY, AND THEN THIS PARCEL HAS BEEN SUBDIVIDED OFF FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT.
AND THEN AS PART OF A KIND OF A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND WE HAVE A PARTNER WITH THE DECATUR HOUSING AUTHORITY WHO WILL BE HAVING A LONG TERM LEASE.
I THINK IT'S A 99 YEAR LEASE AND THEY WILL BE THE DEVELOPER PARTNER FOR AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT ON THIS ABOUT SIX ACRE PARCEL.
IT IS A TWO PHASE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT WILL ULTIMATELY RESULT IN 132 UNITS.
IT'S A RANGE OF ONE, TWO AND THREE BEDROOM SIZES AMONG A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES THAT INCLUDE DUPLEXES AND GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS.
SO THE ZONING USE AND LAND USE CLASSIFICATION OF THE PROPERTY IS I OR INSTITUTIONAL AND PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED INSTITUTIONAL ARE REGULATED THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND IF WE THINK BACK TO THE LEGACY PARK MASTER PLAN AND THEN THE HOUSING ADDENDUM, THAT HOUSING ADDENDUM BECAME THE COMPREHENSIVE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THIS SITE.
AND SO, OF COURSE, THAT WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COMMISSION.
AND ULTIMATELY THAT WAS WHAT WAS USED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLANS FOR THE VILLAGE AT LEGACY.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THE REVIEW TODAY IS THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR LAND USE TABLE, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES AS WELL AS DUPLEXES ARE TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S BEFORE YOU ALL FOR A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN PENDING YOUR RECOMMENDATION, IT WILL CONTINUE ON TO THE CITY COMMISSION AS EARLY AS NEXT MONDAY AT THEIR NEXT MEETING FOR FINAL ACTION AFTER THEIR PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, SO MOVING ON, THERE ARE A FEW, NOT A FEW, TWO SECTIONS IN THE UDO THAT PROVIDE REVIEW STANDARDS.
SO WHAT YOU ALL WILL BE LOOKING AT THIS APPLICATION AND, AND THEN OF COURSE AS THE APPLICANT, I HAVE PROVIDED A STATEMENT OF REASONS FOR WHY THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SHOULD BE GRANTED OR APPROVED.
AND OF COURSE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING WITH SOME CONDITIONS.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT ARTICLE SIX, THERE ARE SPECIFIC USE STANDARDS.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT PROPERTIES TO THE WEST, THERE IS THE 50 ACRE COLUMBIA THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY AND THEN APPROXIMATELY THE TWO ACRE COLUMBIA PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH.
BOTH OF THOSE ARE ZONED INSTITUTIONAL.
SO THEY DO HAVE SOME MULTIFAMILY GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THEN PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH ARE PART OF THE FOUR ACRE HARGROVE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT WENT THROUGH A REZONING PROCESS, IF YOU REMEMBER, A FEW YEARS AGO.
AND THAT PROPERTY IS ZONED RM 22 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND IT CONTAINS 62 THREE STORY DETACHED AND ATTACHED TOWNHOMES. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE REMAINING LAND AROUND THIS DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH.
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DID I SAY THE WEST SHOULD BE EAST.NORTH AND EAST IS PART OF LEGACY PARK.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT, SAY, THE DENSITY OF THE HARGROVE DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS RM 22, WHICH ALLOWS A DENSITY OF 22 UNITS PER ACRE, THE PROPOSED DENSITY OF VILLAGE AT LEGACY IS ALSO 22 UNITS PER ACRE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE COMPARABLE TO WHAT IS OCCURRING WITHIN THE AREA.
THE SECOND IS REVIEW STANDARD IS THE IMPACT THAT THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL USE WILL HAVE ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY, TRAFFIC ON PUBLIC STREETS, TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES, UTILITIES AND OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES.
AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES, THERE'S A MARTA BUS STOP LOCATED IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SITE, BUT ALSO CLOSE BY PROBABLY LESS THAN A MILE FROM THE SITE IS THE AVONDALE MARTA TRANSIT STATION, AND IT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE BY THE EAST DECATUR GREENWAY.
AND THEN IF WE LOOK IF RESIDENTS DO HAVE PERSONAL VEHICLES, THERE IS SUFFICIENT PARKING, AT LEAST ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT.
AND IT HAS THAT PARKING LOT HAS INDIRECT ACCESS TO KATIE KERR DRIVE AND SOUTH COLUMBIA DRIVE VIA THE INTERNAL LEGACY PARK DRIVEWAYS.
AND SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN IS THE REALIGNMENT OF KATIE KERR DRIVE WITH KIRK ROAD SO THAT WE WILL HAVE A FOUR WAY FULLY SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION FOR IMPROVED SAFETY FOR DRIVERS AND PEDESTRIANS.
THE THIRD REVIEW STANDARD IS THE IMPACT THAT THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL USE WILL HAVE ON ESTABLISHED PROPERTY VALUES AND ON THE HEALTH, SAFETY, COMFORT AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
THIS HASN'T BEEN COMING UP TOO OFTEN ABOUT THE DECREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES, BUT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING RESEARCH JUST ON OUR OWN FOR VARIOUS AFFORDABLE HOUSING POLICIES, AND WE HAVE FOUND THAT THE MAJORITY OF INDEPENDENT STUDIES SHOW THAT THERE IS REALLY NO EFFECT ON HOME VALUES.
SO WE DO NOT SEE ANY MERIT THAT THERE WOULD BE A REDUCTION IN PROPERTY VALUES AS A RESULT OF THIS HOUSING PROJECT GOING IN BY THE DECATUR HOUSING AUTHORITY.
AND THEN THE FOURTH REVIEW STANDARD REALLY RELIES, INTERESTINGLY, ON SOME USE STANDARDS RELATED TO THE DOWNTOWN MULTIPLE DWELLING.
I GUESS IT'S JUST A CARRYOVER FOR US TO CONSIDER.
SO UNDER THIS IS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
THE MINIMUM LOT AREA IS ONE ACRE.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS SITE IS SIX ACRES.
SO IT EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM ONE ACRE LOT AREA.
THE NEXT IS THE MINIMUM LOT AREA PER FAMILY.
AND SO I GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE CALCULATIONS BEHIND THAT.
BUT THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT 1000 SQUARE FEET FOR BUILDINGS OF THREE OR LESS STORY'S, WHICH IS THE CASE HERE SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDINGS THAT ARE TWO AND THREE STORIES.
SO WE HAVE 132 FAMILIES OR UNITS MULTIPLIED BY 1000 SQUARE FEET.
AND SO THAT REQUIRES A MINIMUM LOT AREA OF 132,000 SQUARE FEET IN TOTAL.
AND WHAT IS BEING PROVIDED IS 261,360 SQUARE FEET.
SO THIS SITE IS DEFINITELY EXCEEDING THE MINIMUM LOT AREA FOR THE FAMILIES.
THERE'S ALSO THE SUPPLEMENTAL STANDARDS FOR APPROVAL.
THERE'S A MINIMUM OF 5% OUTDOOR AMENITY SPACE FOR RESIDENTS AND OTHER TENANTS.
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JUST ON THIS SITE, NOT COUNTING THE REST OF LEGACY PARK, THEY ARE PROVIDING 7.5% OPEN SPACE AND THAT ACTUALLY EXCLUDES THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT IS FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS THE TREE SAVE AREAS THAT ARE AT THE FRONT ALONG SOUTH COLUMBIA.AND SO LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT OF THE PLAN, ALL PARKING IS DESIGNED TO BE TO THE REAR OF THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, NOT WITHIN THE FRONT YARD BETWEEN THE STREET AND BUILDING FRONTAGE.
THE PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY IN THIS CASE ARE SOUTH COLUMBIA DRIVE AND KATIE KERR DRIVE.
SO EVERYTHING'S TUCKED BEHIND THE BUILDINGS.
DON'T WANT TO CREATE MORE CONFLICT BETWEEN CARS AND PEDESTRIANS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT EXTENDING AN INTERNAL DRIVE ALL THE WAY OVER TO KATIE KERR DRIVE SO THAT THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OUTLETS.
SO THE PARKING IS ACCESSED FROM AN INTERNAL DRIVE AND THEN THE INGRESS AND EGRESS IS THEN EITHER OUT TO SOUTH COLUMBIA DRIVE OR OUT TO KATIE KERR.
EVERYTHING THAT IS ALL VEHICULAR MOVEMENT IS OFF OF SOUTH COLUMBIA DRIVE.
AND SO THIS GIVES ANOTHER OUTLET, IF YOU WILL, IN INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE SITE, TAKING SOME OF THE PRESSURE OR VEHICLE COUNTS OFF OF SOUTH COLUMBIA DRIVE.
THIS IS PART OF OUR LEGACY PARK MASTER PLAN, BUT THAT IS MEANT TO CONNECT THE PATH THAT IS PRESENTLY AT TALLEY STREET, AND IT'S KIND OF CONTINUING SOUTHBOUND AND IT WOULD CONNECT TO THE EAST DECATUR GREENWAY.
THERE ARE SOME PUBLIC UTILITIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE ADJACENT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
WE WILL SEEK TO SEE IF WE CAN PUT THOSE UNDERGROUND.
BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS GUARANTEED WITH OUR PUBLIC UTILITY COMPANIES.
ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ARTICLE 11, THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS THERE.
THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DUPLICATIVE.
SO I'M GOING TO SKIP OVER, BUT I'M GOING TO JUST MENTION A COUPLE THAT ARE NOT DUPLICATIVE.
AND THE KEY THING THAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THE INSTITUTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT REQUIRES AN APPROVED, COMPREHENSIVE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT CAME OUT OF THE LEGACY PARK MASTER PLAN.
AND THE PLAN THAT IS BEFORE US TONIGHT, AS PROPOSED BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, IS VERY MUCH ALIGNED WITH THAT COMPREHENSIVE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS ADOPTED.
SO THE [INAUDIBLE]. WHETHER THE PROPOSED USE RESULTS IN A USE WHICH WILL OR COULD CAUSE AN EXCESSIVE OR BURDENSOME USE OF EXISTING STREETS, TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES, UTILITIES, OR OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES.
WHILE I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION AND UTILITIES, I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT ENROLLMENT IN THE CITY SCHOOLS OF DECATUR, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT DOES COME UP FREQUENTLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ANY MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.
AND SO BASED ON OUR RECENT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY SCHOOLS OF DECATUR, SOME OF THE STUDIES THAT THE CITY SCHOOLS OF DECATUR HAVE CONDUCTED ON DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY, THEIR STUDIES SHOW THAT TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES HAVE 2 TO 3 TIMES THE NUMBER OF SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN THAN THOSE RESIDING IN APARTMENTS.
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TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS.AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS FOR THE VILLAGE AT LEGACY AND RUN THE CALCULATIONS, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 36 STUDENTS THAT WOULD BASED ON THIS CALCULATION THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THIS PROJECT.
AND THAT LEVEL OF CHANGE, WHICH IS KIND OF MINIMAL, THE SCHOOLS ARE ABLE TO ABSORB THAT.
IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH STUDIES THAT THE CITY DID WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE NEW MULTIFAMILY DOWNTOWN NEXT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM THAT SHOWED THAT THAT MULTIFAMILY WOULD GENERATE FEWER STUDENTS PER HOUSEHOLD THAN STANDALONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
AND I ACTUALLY CITE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE IN THE APPLICATION.
SO THAT DEVELOPMENT IS A LITTLE OVER 300 UNITS AND CSD INITIALLY PROJECTED 129 STUDENTS COMING OUT OF THAT PROJECT AND THE CURRENT NUMBER IS 29 STUDENTS.
WELL, AS OF THE LAST SCHOOL YEAR, WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER FOR THIS YEAR.
SO JUST PERSPECTIVE AND A QUICK QUESTION, THOUGH.
THE CITY SCHOOLS OF DECATUR WILL CONTINUE TO USE THAT 0.5 STUDENTS, NUMBER OF PER 2 TO 3 BEDROOMS IN THEIR CALCULATION, EVEN THOUGH AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY MAY DO A NEW STUDY.
BUT BASED ON WHAT THEY DID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THAT WAS THEIR FINDINGS.
BUT THAT WOULD ABSORB IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL STUDENTS COMING OUT OF A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS THAT.
I THINK THE LAST ONE THAT IS NOT SO DUPLICATIVE TO THE PREVIOUS REVIEW STANDARDS IS NUMBER SIX, WHERE THERE ARE OTHER EXISTING OR CHANGING CONDITIONS, WHICH BECAUSE OF THEIR IMPACT ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALITY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY, GIVE SUPPORTING GROUNDS FOR EITHER APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED USE.
AND THIS IS WHERE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING UP THE CITY'S ADOPTED STRATEGIC PLAN, THE 2020 STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH WE CALL DECATUR 2030, AS WELL AS THE WORK OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TASK FORCE IN 2019 AND 2020 WITH THEIR REPORT THAT CAME OUT, IT'S THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE CITY'S ADOPTED STRATEGIC PLAN, AND I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY FOUR THAT ARE REALLY RELEVANT TO THIS PROJECT.
THE FIRST MOST OBVIOUS ONE IS IMPLEMENT THE HOUSING RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE LEGACY PARK MASTER PLAN, WHICH THIS CERTAINLY HAS THE GOAL OF DOING.
ANOTHER ONE IS ENCOURAGING A VARIETY OF UNIT SIZES, ENCOURAGE SOME THREE PLUS BEDROOM UNITS TO ACCOMMODATE LARGER HOUSEHOLDS. OVER TIME WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF STUDIOS AND ONE BEDROOMS BEING BUILT AS PART OF MULTIFAMILY, AND WE'RE NOT BUILDING FOR FAMILIES.
SO THIS IS THIS PROJECT IS DEFINITELY PROVIDING HOUSING FOR FAMILIES AND THE OTHER IS ENSURING THAT EACH NEIGHBORHOOD PROVIDES ITS FAIR SHARE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT ALL NEIGHBORHOODS MUST PARTICIPATE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGIES IN THIS PLAN. SO IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DECATUR, THIS AREA IS CLOSER TO WINNONA PARK, AND WINNONA PARK HAS THE LEAST NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS OR NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE UNITS.
AND SO THIS IS PLACING UNITS WHERE IT IS NEEDED AND IT'S KIND OF THE FAIR SHARE IF WE'RE LOOKING TO LOCATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AND THEN LASTLY, THIS IS JUST A STRATEGY OF THE CITY, BUT DEVELOPING INNOVATIVE PIPELINES OF AVAILABLE LAND, INCREASING THE SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY, INCLUDING LEGACY PARK.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS AVAILABLE LAND THAT WE HAVE TO DEVELOP.
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SO AND THEN THE VERY LAST ONE THAT I'LL POINT OUT IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CITY STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO DEVELOP NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THIS PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AT LEAST 60 UNITS PER YEAR THAT ARE AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 30 TO 60% AMI AND AT LEAST 100 UNITS PER YEAR THAT ARE AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 60 TO 120% AMI.SO THIS AGAIN IS WORKING TOWARDS THE GOAL OF BOTH OF THESE.
SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THESE OUT BECAUSE THIS PROJECT REALLY TIES TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TASK FORCE REPORT AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE ULTIMATELY ADOPTED AS PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND SO IN THE APPLICATION IN MY MEMO, I AM SUGGESTING THAT THERE'S A SERIES OF DESIGN COMPONENTS KIND OF BE DOCUMENTED IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE.
THESE ARE VERY KEY TO THE DESIGN.
IT'S INCLUDING NOT LIMITED TO BUT BUILDING SETBACKS FROM PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY AND PROPERTY LINES, LOCATIONS AND NUMBER OF BUILDINGS.
THE BUILDING HEIGHTS AND EXTERIOR DESIGNS THAT WE SEE IN THE PLANS, THE LOCATION, THE LAYOUT, THE POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR VEHICULAR MOVEMENT, THE LOCATION OF TRASH ENCLOSURES, AND THE TRASH SCREENING.
THERE'S ALSO THE TREE SAVE AREA, WHICH I'LL SPEAK TO IN JUST A MOMENT.
WE JUST WANT TO HAVE IT HERE IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THESE ARE IMPORTANT DESIGN COMPONENTS.
THE OTHER PROPOSED CONDITIONS ARE REALLY PULLED FROM OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
TALKING ABOUT MAJOR AMENDMENTS NEED TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WHAT IS DEFINED AS A MAJOR AMENDMENT, AND THEN THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER AND SUBSEQUENT PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND SO WE DID RECEIVE TWO WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IT IS POSTED ON THE MEETING WEB PAGE.
BOTH COMMENTS ARE HEAVILY RELATED TO THE TREE SAVE AREA AND SO THAT IS THE TREE SAVE AREA IS ILLUSTRATED ALONG THE SOUTH COLUMBIA DRIVE FRONTAGE.
AND, SO WHAT I HAVE DONE, THE DRAFT ORDINANCE IS POSTED ON THE MEETING WEB PAGE, BUT I HAVE ALSO PRINTED A COPY FOR YOU ALL GIVEN THAT WE RECEIVED THESE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
WHAT I HAVE DONE, IF YOU TURN TO THE SECOND PAGE OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, IT'S ITEM 1G.
THIS IS REALLY TRYING TO HONOR THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED ABOUT THE TREE SAVE AREA THAT THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY COVER FROM TREES THAT ARE IN FAIR OR BETTER RATED CONDITION THAT IS WITHIN THAT TREE SAVE AREA SHALL BE PROTECTED TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE.
NO DISTURBANCE OR REMOVAL OF EXISTING PROTECTED TREES SHALL BE PERMITTED WITHOUT THE WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE CITY ARBORIST IN THE FORM OF A TREE CONSERVATION PLAN OR A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
AND THIS AGAIN IN LARGE PART IS TAKEN FROM OUR NEW CANOPY COVER ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED LATE LAST YEAR. I BELIEVE.
SO AND THEN SO WITH WITH ME TONIGHT IS DOUG FAUST THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DECATUR HOUSING AUTHORITY.
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BUT I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU.
BEFORE WE GET INTO ANY QUESTIONS, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSAL. WHILE HE MAKES HIS WAY TO THE LECTERN. ANGELA AS THE APPLICANT, I ASSUME THAT YOUR ADDRESS IS 509 NORTH MCDONOUGH STREET, DECATUR, GEORGIA.
[LAUGHTER] IT FEELS LIKE I LIVE HERE SOMETIMES.
AND I DON'T ACTUALLY LIVE THERE.
[LAUGHTER] JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO CREATING A GREAT COMMUNITY HERE.
WE HAVE WORKED HARD ON THE DESIGN.
WE'VE ALREADY BROUGHT THAT THROUGH PUBLIC MEETINGS AND WE BROUGHT IT TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
WE THINK OUR LAYOUT MATCHES THE MASTER PLAN IN A VERY ARTFUL WAY AND A THOUGHTFUL WAY.
WE TRY TO VERY MUCH DO THOSE THINGS THAT WERE LISTED IN THE MASTER PLAN.
WE DID RECOGNIZE THE TREE SAVE AREA.
IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE RECREATIONAL AREA FOR CHILDREN.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE WHEN YOU GET TO THAT POINT.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSAL? MY NAME IS MARY GOULD.
I AM RECENTLY 422 SECOND AVENUE IN THE OAKHURST NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I'M NO LONGER CITY OF DECATUR AND I STILL OWN PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF DECATUR.
BUT MY HEART WILL ALWAYS BE IN DECATUR.
FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, MANY OF US HAVE FELT PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN DECATUR.
THIS FIRST BECAME APPARENT TO ME WHEN I WAS TEACHING ESL IN CLARKSTON AND SOME OF MY STUDENTS MOVED INTO THE CITY OF DECATUR.
THE CHILDREN WERE PLACED IN GIFTED.
THEY WANTED TO BUY A HOUSE AND IT JUST WASN'T POSSIBLE.
SO THEY'RE NOW IN LAWRENCEVILLE AND THAT'S WHAT FIRST GOT ME STARTED.
WE'RE ALMOST THERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
YES, MA'AM. MY NAME IS KATHERINE CARTER.
I LIVE AT 531 SOUTH CANDLER STREET, WHERE I'VE BEEN MOST OF MY LIFE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSAL? YES, MA'AM. HELLO.
MY NAME IS LAURA SMEDLEY AT 4201 GRAYSON PLACE, NOT QUITE IN DECATUR PROPER.
AND I APOLOGIZE I DON'T HAVE A STATEMENT PREPARED.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSAL? WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT? OKAY. SEEING NO ONE.
IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPOSAL? ANYONE ONLINE? I LOVE DECATUR.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND OPEN DISCUSSION AMONGST OURSELVES.
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DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSAL OR THE ORDINANCE OR ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US? A FEW QUESTIONS JUST ON THE THINGS LIKE THE BASICALLY THE REALIGNMENT AND ALSO THE CONNECTION OVER TO SOUTH COLOMBIA. IS THAT A DONE DEAL? BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMPLETELY CLEAR ON THERE.IT'S SORT OF IMPLIED, BUT IT DOESN'T.
IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO TELL WHETHER THAT IS PART OF IT OR DOES IT CHANGE ANYTHING IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN? [INAUDIBLE] SURE.
SO THE INTERNAL DRIVE, THAT EXTENSION OF THE INTERNAL DRIVE OVER TO KATIE KERR WILL BE DONE AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. THE REALIGNMENT WITH KATIE KERR WITH KIRK ROAD WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
SO BUT IT IS PART OF OUR LONG RANGE PLAN.
AND AS SOON AS FUNDING IS AVAILABLE, IT IS WITH THE INTENT THAT THE CITY WOULD COMPLETE THAT.
DOES THE OTHER ROAD REMAIN OR DOES THAT GO AWAY AND THE GREEN SPACE BECOMES CONTIGUOUS, OR DOES IT BECOME SORT OF A GREEN TRIANGULAR PARK? IDEALLY, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT ASPHALT UP AND TURN THAT INTO GREEN SPACE, ALMOST LIKE A POCKET PARK.
AND SO THOSE TOWNHOMES WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE FRONTING ONTO A WONDERFUL GREEN SPACE.
AND OF COURSE, THE EAST DECATUR GREENWAY WOULD BE RUNNING PARALLEL WITH KATIE KERR.
AND THEN SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REALIGN THE PATH THERE AND THEN TAKE IT SOUTH.
BUT WE RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS AS PART OF OUR OPEN HOUSE ABOUT THIS PROJECT, ABOUT WHAT SHOULD WE DO WITH THIS EXTRA GREEN SPACE.
AND SO NOTHING DECIDED AT THIS TIME, BUT JUST KNOW THAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT AS OPEN SPACE NOT TO BE DEVELOPED. I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT WHEN LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK.
WAS THERE REALIGNMENT OF KATIE KERR INCLUDED IN THAT ANALYSIS? AS PART OF THE LEGACY PARK MASTER PLAN, YES, WE HAD TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS WORKING ALONGSIDE THE CONSULTANT TEAM AND THE CITY.
VHB WAS THE SUB CONSULTANTS AND SO THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT USES, LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND THEN THIS IS WHAT THE SOLUTION CAME UP TO BE AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS.
OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? BUT BY DESIGNATING THE TREE SAVE AREA WHAT KIND OF COMMITMENT DOES THAT PUT ON THAT AREA? AND I SEE THE CONCLUSION OF THE CONDITION IS NO TREE SHALL BE NO DISTURBANCE OR REMOVAL OF EXISTING PROTECTED TREE SHALL BE PERMITTED WITHOUT THE WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE CITY ARBORIST IN THE FORM OF APPROVED TREE CONSERVATION [INAUDIBLE].
A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT, WHICH IS THE NORMAL COURSE OF? IT, IS. IT IS.
SO THE KEY THING IS THAT THE LEGACY PARK MASTER PLAN HIGHLIGHTED THESE TREES AS SOME OF THE OLDER GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY OF DECATUR AND THAT THIS AREA SHOULD BE SAVED MORE SO THAN WITH INTERNALLY WITHIN WHERE THIS SITE DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR.
AND SO AS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WORKED WITH THEIR LAND PLANNERS AND ARCHITECTS, THEY KEPT THAT IN MIND TO PULL THE BUILDINGS OUT OF THAT TREE SAVE AREA.
BUT THEN TO HAVE THIS EXTRA WRITTEN KIND OF CONDITION WITHIN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE TO DISTURB THIS AREA, YOU REALLY NEED TO WORK WITH OUR CITY ARBORIST TO COME UP WITH A TREE PLAN AND A REMOVAL PERMIT IF ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
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REQUIREMENT WOULD APPLY BECAUSE TECHNICALLY IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA, GOVERNMENT ENTITIES ARE IMMUNE FROM THE ENFORCEMENT OF ZONING. AND SO THE CITY OF DECATUR HISTORICALLY HAS VOLUNTARILY DONE THAT.BUT BY PUTTING IT IN THE SITE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT ARE THEN APPROVED AND AGREED TO BY THE CITY, IT'S CLEAR THAT THOSE CODE PROVISIONS ARE BINDING ON THE CITY BECAUSE IT IS VOLUNTARILY ACCEPTED THAT AS A SPECIAL CONDITION ON THIS ACTION.
AND I HAD A QUESTION ON THAT TOO.
AND IT WAS MORE JUST WORDING FOR THE 1G AND THIS IS TRULY JUST A QUESTION.
WOULD IT BE BETTER? AND IT MAY NOT JUST TO SAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY OF DECATUR TREE ORDINANCE, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, WHATEVER THE ORDINANCE IS, AND JUST LIST THAT.
OR IS IT? WHEN I WAS READING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, I THINK THEY REALLY WANTED IT TO BE MORE EXPLICIT ABOUT THE TREE SAVE AREA JUST BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR CANOPY ORDINANCE THAT WAS RECENTLY ADOPTED IN THE INSTITUTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT, 45% OF THE CANOPY IS REQUIRED TO BE PROTECTED. AND WE MAY BE REQUIRING IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND ALSO THE CANOPY ORDINANCE IF YOU'RE DOING ANYTHING TO DISTURB THOSE.
I THINK IT HAS TREE REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT MIGHT ADD SOME FLEXIBILITY IN HOW THAT REQUIREMENT IS MET, WHERE THIS EXPLICITLY SAYS THESE TREES THAT ARE IN THIS AREA WILL BE PROTECTED.
TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE.
YEAH. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSAL OR THE ORDINANCE? I HAD ONE QUESTION.
I'M JUST GOING BACK TO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WHERE IT DID ASSUME THE REALIGNMENT OF KATIE KERR.
AND I KNOW THAT'S LONG RANGE FUNDING.
I DO THINK THAT WOULD HELP TREMENDOUSLY TO REALIGN.
WOULD IT BE VALUABLE TO PUT INTO THE CONDITIONS? IT'S J MAYBE 1J ANY CHANGES TO THE ASSUMPTIONS GOING INTO WHATEVER THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS? IF FUNDING DOESN'T EMERGE FOR THAT REALIGNMENT.
DOES MOVING FORWARD WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ELEMENT OF THE PROJECT DEPEND UPON THE ENTIRE SITE PLAN BEING BUILT AS SHOWN, INCLUDING THE KATIE KERR REALIGNMENT? NOT THE KATIE ALIGNMENT.
REALIGNMENT OF KATIE KERR IS A DESIRABLE THING.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT. WE'RE PROVIDING FOR THAT IN THE WAY THE LAND IS LAID OUT.
WE'RE GOING TO DEMOLISH THE TWO HOUSES THAT ARE THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO PUT GREEN COVER BACK OVER THOSE AREAS.
THE KATIE KERR REALIGNMENT IS NOT A HOUSING AUTHORITY PROJECT.
IT'S NOT PART OF WHAT WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO.
IF YOU PUT CONDITIONS HERE, THAT'S FINE.
ALL RIGHT, THANKS. I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION.
YOU PROBABLY [INAUDIBLE] TO ANSWER THAT.
BUT WHAT SORT OF DROVE THE MIXTURE OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TYPES.
AND HOW DID YOU GUYS SORT OF DECIDE TO DO THAT? I IMAGINE THEY'RE NOT AT VASTLY DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS OR DIFFERENT DENSITIES KIND OF SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THE SORT OF LARGER GROUPING OF SORT OF TRADITIONAL GARDEN TYPE
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BUILDINGS AROUND THE PERIMETER.I GUESS ONE OBSERVATION IS TAKE KATIE KERR FOR A LONG TIME BASICALLY BEEN AN ARTERY ROAD WITH ENTRANCES TO SUBDIVISIONS AND THEN THE NEW TOWNHOMES ACROSS THE STREET ACTUALLY STARTED TO KIND OF ENGAGE THAT.
THIS SEEMS TO BE GENERALLY ALL COMPLETELY ORGANIZED AROUND THE INTERIOR AND THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE BUILDINGS TO WHETHER IT'S THE REALIGNMENT OF KATIE KERR OR THE OLD ALIGNMENT OF KATIE KERR SEEMS TO BE KIND OF HAPPENSTANCE.
IT IS WHAT IT IS BECAUSE IT'S ORGANIZED AROUND THE CENTER.
SO IF YOU'LL ADD WHEN I FINISH.
AND SO THIS WAS THOUGHT TO BE THE BETTER WAY TO APPROACH IT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THE MASTER PLAN APPROACHED IN SOME WAYS WANTED TO SHIELD PORTIONS OF THE SITE SO THAT IT WAS LESS OBVIOUS WHAT WAS THERE TO RESPECT THE HISTORIC NATURE OF WHAT WAS THERE.
AND I'LL ADD THAT THE INTENT OF THE MASTER PLAN WAS TO HAVE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE THAT FRONTAGE.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE ALL FACADES ARE KIND OF THE FRONT.
SO IT'S FRONTING ONTO KATIE KERR, IT'S FRONTING ONTO TO JUST SOUTH COLUMBIA.
SO WHILE IT'S ORGANIZED AROUND, I MEAN, IT'S JUST KIND OF THAT VILLAGE CONCEPT WHERE YOU'RE CREATING A MIX OF BUILDING TYPES AND SCALES AND MASSING, BUT THEN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT WAS AROUND, THAT'S WHY THE, THE LARGER BUILDINGS ARE ORIENTED TOWARDS THE STREETS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HARGROVE AND COLUMBIA.
COLUMBIA SEMINARY AND THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, THOSE ARE FAIRLY SIZABLE DEVELOPMENTS AND BUILDINGS.
SO IT'S JUST, AGAIN, TRYING TO HUG THAT CORNER AND FOLLOW SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA.
THOSE ARE ALSO TOPOGRAPHICALLY THAT AREA IS LOWER.
AND WE WERE FORTUNATE WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE DESIGN FROM THE FOUR STORIES AUTHORIZED BY THE MASTER PLAN DOWN TO THREE STORIES, BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT SOFTER LOOK. GOTCHA. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT OUT, BUT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS IT'S PRESENTED.
I DON'T THINK THE CONDITIONS, THE CONFUSION ABOUT THAT SEEMS LIKE THE INTENT IS IN THERE.
BUT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN DEPENDING ON FUNDING.
BUT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVE THIS APPLICATION WITH THE CONDITIONS AS SHOWN IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN POSTED ONLINE AND SUMMARIZED BY ANGELA IN HER PRESENTATION.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT. ALL EVERYONE IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. THE MOTION CARRIES.
THAT TAKES US TO OTHER BUSINESS AND I'LL CALL THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[IV. Other Business a. Presentation by the City of Decatur Community and Economic Development Department on the proposed text amendments to Article 2, Article 3, Article 6, Article 7 and Article 12 of the Unified Development Ordinance related to missing middle housing.]
AND ANGELA, I UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THIS ONE AND GO AHEAD WITH THIS CASE FIRST, WHICH IS A PRESENTATION BY THE CITY OF DECATUR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT ON THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLE TWO.AND I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE KRISTIN ALLIN, WHO IS A PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF DECATUR.
SHE WAS HIRED TO HELP THE CITY WITH ALL OF ITS AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.
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TO THESE TYPES OF INITIATIVES.SO SHE HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING POLICY.
AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION.
WELCOME AND MY NAME IS KRISTIN, AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
AND OUR SCREENS ARE NOT WORKING UP HERE.
IS THERE A WAY TO TURN ON THE SCREENS? SO KIND OF IN THE WHOLE PREMISE OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
I'LL TALK FIRST ABOUT DECATUR'S HOUSING TRAJECTORY OVER THE LAST DECADES.
WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WHAT THE RECOMMENDED POLICIES ARE, SOME REAL LIFE OPPORTUNITIES.
THE OUTREACH PROCESS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST YEAR OR SO AND THE NEXT STEPS.
MOST OF YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT MISSING MIDDLE IS, BUT I'LL JUST GO THROUGH A REVIEW.
YOU CAN GO BACK. SO THIS IS ALSO SOMETIMES TERMED MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING BECAUSE IT FITS AN INCOME THAT IS NOT SOLELY IN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
SO THESE EXISTED IN DECATUR UP UNTIL DUPLEXES WERE THE LAST TYPE THAT WAS DISALLOWED IN 1988.
SO NOW ONLY SINGLE FAMILY HOME CONSTRUCTION IS ALLOWED IN DECATUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
OKAY. SO WE'LL GO OVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DECATUR'S TRAJECTORY FROM 2000 TO 2020.
THAT WASN'T SPECIFIC TO DECATUR.
AND SHE SAID, OH, OUR MISSING MIDDLE WAS DISALLOWED IN 1988.
SO I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE OURS WAS TOO.
SO I WENT BACK AND DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE 80S.
I COULD PROBABLY SPEND SEVERAL HOURS TALKING ABOUT THAT.
BUT JUST TO BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, THAT WAS THE REAGAN YEARS.
THERE WAS APPEARED TO BE KIND OF SOME EASY MONEY FLOWING INTO RENTAL PROPERTY IN THAT TIME.
AND SO IT WAS PRETTY LUCRATIVE.
AND THERE WAS A BUST IN THE LATE EIGHTIES WHEN THE DEPRECIATION, SCHEDULE WAS SHORTENED.
AND I THINK THAT I WASN'T HERE DURING THAT TIME, BUT I THINK IT LED TO SOME VACANCY AND SOME FEAR.
AND TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE IT, COMMUNITIES GO THROUGH STAGES.
SO DECATUR MAYBE AT THAT POINT WAS AT A STAGE WHERE THERE WERE SOME DISTRESSED PROPERTIES.
IT NEEDED SOME STABILIZING AND REVITALIZING, AND THAT'S WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS.
BUT WE'VE KIND OF GOTTEN TO A TRAJECTORY THAT I'LL GO THROUGH NEXT, WHERE WE'VE GONE PAST THAT TO MORE OF A GENTRIFYING AREA WHERE PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT STAGES OF LIFE AREN'T NECESSARILY FINDING THE HOUSING THAT THEY MAY NEED.
ANOTHER LITTLE THING ABOUT THE TRAJECTORY.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF A TRAJECTORY.
WHEN LARGER HOMES ARE BUILT AND THE PROPERTY ASSESSMENTS RISE, THE PROPERTY TAXES RISE.
SO IT'S BEEN A TRAJECTORY OVER TIME WHERE IT'S NOT JUST THAT DECATUR PROPERTY TAXES HAVE JUST RISEN.
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IT'S KIND OF PART OF THE WHOLE CYCLE THAT WE'VE BEEN IN FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES.SO WHAT'S GONE UP IN DECATUR OVER TIME? I LOOKED AT A LOT OF DATA SINCE 2000.
HOMES WITH FOUR PLUS BEDROOMS HAVE GONE UP.
HOUSEHOLDS WITH THREE OR MORE PEOPLE HAVE GONE UP.
SO OUR 2 TO 4 UNIT HOMES, THE MISSING MIDDLE, THE NUMBER OF THOSE HAS GONE DOWN.
THE NUMBER OF 1 TO 2 PERSON HOUSEHOLDS HAS ALSO DECREASED.
AND WE'VE LOST A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE YOUNGER AGE BRACKETS IN DECATUR THAT'S GONE DOWN A GOOD BIT.
SO PEOPLE IN THE 20 TO 24 AGE BRACKET AND 25 TO 34, THAT'S DECREASED IN DECATUR AS WELL.
SO WE'VE SEEN A DRAMATIC RISE IN $100,000, $150,000 AND $200,000.
AND I'LL HAVE A SLIDE IN A MINUTE ABOUT THAT.
I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES.
I REALLY LIKE MY GRAPHICS, BUT SO THE FIRST ONE IS HOUSEHOLD SIZE.
SO YOU CAN SEE 2000 IS IN THE BLUE AND 2020 IS IN THE GREEN.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF ONE AND TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLDS HAS DECREASED AND YOU'VE SEEN A RISE IN THE THREE AN A PRETTY DRAMATIC RISE IN THE NUMBER OF FOUR PERSON HOUSEHOLDS SINCE 2000.
AND THIS IS A GRAPH OF THE CHANGE IN HOME OWNERSHIP RATES BY RACE OR ETHNICITY.
SO THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE DECLINE IN BLACK AND HISPANIC HOMEOWNERS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE UNDER EVERYTHING UNDER $100,000 HAS DECREASED.
SO THE BLUE IS 2010 AND THE GREEN IS 2020.
THEN I THINK THIS CHART IS PRETTY FASCINATING, BUT THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE IN AGE GROUPS.
SO I HIGHLIGHTED THE 20-24 AND THE 25 TO 34 IN DECATUR JUST DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT, THOSE AGE GROUPS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT ATLANTA, WHICH IS IN THE GREEN OR METRO ATLANTA WHICH IS IN THE ORANGE.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT ATLANTA AND DECATUR, OUR PROPERTY TAXES AREN'T NECESSARILY THAT DIFFERENT.
THERE'S JUST MORE OF AN ABUNDANCE OF THAT DIVERSITY OF HOUSING IN ATLANTA.
SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE TRAJECTORY.
SO WE'VE TURNED INTO LARGER, MORE EXPENSIVE HOMES OVER TIME.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT FROM 2000 TO 2020, WE'VE ADDED 478 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES AND 410 SINGLE FAMILY ONE UNIT DETACHED HOMES, WHICH WOULD BE THE TOWNHOMES.
AND WE'VE LOST A TOTAL OF 347 OF THE 2 TO 4 UNIT HOMES.
WE'VE ALSO LOST THE 5 TO 9 IN THE 10 TO 19 UNIT APARTMENTS AND WE'VE GAINED THE 20 OR MORE UNITS.
ROBUST HISTORY OF HOUSING DISCUSSIONS IN DECATUR AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IT ACTUALLY GOES BACK MENTIONS IN THE 2000 STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT WE REALLY SEE KIND OF THIS IDEA OF DIVERSITY OF PRICE POINTS FOR ALL STAGES OF LIFE SHOWING UP IN 2008. WE TALK ABOUT MISSING MIDDLE TYPES OF HOUSING, STARTING IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL.
SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS TALK IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR A WHILE NOW, AND WE HAD THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TASK FORCE IN 2020, WHICH ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED TO ALLOW THE MISSING MIDDLE IN OUR SINGLE FAMILY ZONES.
THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE TASK FORCE.
SO WHERE ARE WE TODAY AFTER THOSE DECADES OF DISCUSSIONS AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
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THIS IS THE NATIONAL CITIZEN SURVEY FROM 2020 FOR DECATUR AND THIS IS A RANDOM SAMPLING OF I THINK IT WAS AROUND 550 PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN DECATUR IN 3030 AND DECATUR SCORES ARE REALLY HIGH.BUT OUR SCORES FOR QUALITY OF LIFE, TRANSIT ACCESSIBILITY ARE ALL VERY HIGH.
BUT WHERE WE ARE NOT SUCCEEDING IN DECATUR IS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE GREEN THAT THE AVAILABILITY OF QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AT 21%.
AND WHAT ABOUT OUR HOUSING AND POPULATION ESTIMATES? SO THIS IS FROM THE ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION.
DECATUR'S POPULATION IS PROJECTED TO GROW BY ABOUT 10,500 PEOPLE BY 2050.
SO WE WILL NEED PEOPLE, SPACES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE OR OUR PRICES ARE JUST GOING TO KEEP GOING UP.
AND WE ALSO HAVE BIRTH RATES THAT ARE GOING DOWN AND SMALLER HOUSEHOLD SIZES.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING NATIONWIDE AND IN THE METRO ATLANTA AREA AS WELL.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CITY OF DECATUR, ONE REASON THAT THE TASK FORCE REALLY LOOKED AT THIS MISSING MIDDLE ZONING AS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PINK SHOWS ALL OF THE AREAS OF DECATUR THAT ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY.
SO IT'S 67% OF OUR CITY IS ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
OUR PRICE AVERAGE HOME PRICE IN 2021 WAS OVER $700,000.
THAT INCLUDES SOME OF OUR NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS A LOWER RATE.
SO THE NEWER HOUSING RENTS ARE MORE LIKE $2,400 UP TO I THINK AROUND $3,000 OR $3,200 RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S A VERY HIGH QUALITY PLACE TO LIVE.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT KIND OF BINDS THE WHOLE STRATEGIC PLAN TOGETHER RIGHT NOW IS LOOKING AT EVERYTHING IN THIS LENS OF EQUITY AND RACIAL JUSTICE AS WE TRY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES AT HAND. WHY A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING? WHY IS IT IMPORTANT? SO ZONING HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME.
AS WE KNOW, THIS TYPE OF HOUSING WAS ALLOWED AND IT WASN'T ALLOWED.
SO DUPLEXES, AS I MENTIONED, WERE THE LAST TYPE TO BE DISALLOWED IN 1988.
SO SINCE 2014, BOTH ADUS AND COTTAGE COURTS HAVE BEEN ALLOWED THROUGH ZONING MODIFICATIONS.
BUT THIS HAS BEEN AN IMPORTANT KIND OF MISSING MIDDLE AND DIVERSITY OF HOUSING SUBJECT.
SO MILLENNIALS AND GEN Z, YOU SEE A LOT OF SUPPORT IN OUR YOUNGER GENERATION FOR THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE YOUNGER WHO MAY BE BURDENED WITH THINGS LIKE STUDENT DEBT OR LOOKING FOR SMALLER HOUSING TYPES.
THE MISSING MIDDLE FIT IN THE OVERALL HOUSING GOALS.
AS I MENTIONED, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION OF THE TASK FORCE HAS BEEN PUT INTO THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND AS FAR AS THE OVERALL HOUSING GOALS, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE MISSING MIDDLE WILL BE ALLOWED IF THE RECOMMENDATIONS PASSED WOULD BE ALLOWED MARKET RATE.
WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO PUT TOOLS IN PLACE THAT CAN ADDRESS AFFORDABILITY.
SOME OF THESE TOOLS ARE THE DECATUR LAND TRUST.
AND WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT PARTNERSHIPS AND HOW THOSE WORK.
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SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF GOOD LESSONS IN PARTNERSHIPS AND HOW THESE CAN WORK TO FURTHER OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOALS.WE'VE GOT SOME EMERGING OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.
SO ONE EXAMPLE IS 600 COMMERCE DRIVE.
THAT'S A HOUSE THE CITY I BELIEVE IS WORKING ON PURCHASING HOPEFULLY TOWARD THE END OF THE MONTH.
BUT THAT COULD BE A PILOT FOR DOING A QUAD PLEX.
SO WE'VE GOT SOME EXAMPLES OUT THERE, OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IN A MINUTE WHERE WE'RE SEEING EXAMPLES THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DO AND KEEP AFFORDABLE AS WELL.
SO WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDED POLICIES? SO THIS FIRST SLIDE SHOWS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT COULD BE NEWER COULD BE CONVERSIONS BECAUSE IF THE POLICY IS IF THESE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE PASSED THROUGH THE CITY, IT WOULD ALLOW NOT ONLY NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT WOULD ALSO ALLOW HOME CONVERSIONS.
AND SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF A KIND OF A BUNGALOW STYLE HOME THAT MIGHT LOOK AT LIKE AS A DUPLEX, KIND OF A TALLER, THINNER HOME ON A LOT THAT'S MORE OF A SKINNY SHAPE WITH THE STAIRS ON THE SIDE.
AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF EXAMPLES OF THAT AND SOME OF OUR EXISTING HOUSING WHERE THEY HAVE LITTLE STAIRWELL TO THE SECOND FLOOR ON THE OUTSIDE AND THEN THERE IS AN EXISTING OR NEW HOUSE ON THE BOTTOM.
THAT SHOWS JUST A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF WHAT KIND OF THIS OVER UNDER WHERE YOU HAVE ONE ABOVE AND ONE BELOW VERSUS MAYBE A BUNGALOW WHERE IT'S ONE STORY, YOU MAY HAVE A UNIT IN THE BACK.
AND THEN THIS SHOWS BASICALLY A SINGLE FAMILY HOME VERSUS A DUPLEX TRIPLEX OR QUAD PLEX.
IT JUST WOULD BE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE.
THIS SLIDE ALSO ILLUSTRATES THE SECOND PART OF THE POLICY RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS TO ALLOW UP TO 50% OF THE PARKING TO BE ON STREET IF ON STREET PARKING IS ALLOWED AND IF THERE'S ENOUGH CURB FRONTAGE.
SO THE POLICY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THIS TO GO THROUGH A LIMITED REVIEW SO THAT THE CITY IS ABLE TO REVIEW IF THERE'S A REQUEST FOR THE PARKING TO REVIEW THAT, THAT ACTUALLY THERE'S ENOUGH CURB FRONTAGE FOR THAT AND IT'S ALLOWED ON THE STREET.
AND THE POLICY PROPOSALS WOULD HAVE IT ALLOWED IN R50 R60 R85 AND RS17 DISTRICTS.
AND SO I PULLED UP JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES.
THIS IS A HOUSE I LIVE IN DECATUR AS WELL.
IT'S A CORNER LOT AND IT'S A LONG, KIND OF SKINNY HOUSE.
SO IT'S KIND OF ONE EXAMPLE OF WHAT A COMPLEX COULD LOOK LIKE WHERE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WAS BUILT.
AND THEN THESE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER PHOTOS I TOOK AN, KIND OF MODIFIED JUST AROUND DECATUR OF SOME NEWER HOMES, JUST SO PEOPLE CAN VISUALLY SEE THAT SOME OF THE NEW HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT.
BUT JUST TO SHOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF NEW DESIGNS OUT IN DECATUR OF HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT THAT ARE YOU CAN VISUALIZE THEM BEING CONVERTED AND FITTING EXACTLY INTO WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT I HAVE.
AND SHE LIVES BY HERSELF AND SHE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A FRIEND OR SOMEONE ELSE LIVE WITH HER.
SHE DOESN'T REALLY WANT TO BE ALONE.
AND SO THIS WOULD BE THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DEVELOP PROGRAMS TO HELP KIND OF WALK THEM THROUGH WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO SUBDIVIDE THEIR SMALLER BUNGALOW INTO A TWO UNIT HOUSE SO THAT THEY WERE NOT LIVING ALONE AND COULD EVEN BE ACCOMPANIED BY SOMETHING LIKE AN ADU, SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE SOME RENTAL INCOME OR MAYBE HAVE A STUDENT RENTING IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
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DECATUR AND LEAVE THEIR HOME, BUT THEY WANT TO STAY IN DECATUR.IT'S JUST WE HAVE MORE OPTIONS OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO DO WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
AND SO JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
BUT THAT COULD BE THE GOAL OF THE DLT IS TO OWN PROPERTIES IN DECATUR.
BUT THE DLT, IT REALLY WANTS TO FOCUS ON HOME OWNERSHIP.
THIS POLICY WOULD ALLOW FOR MARKET RATE, FOR SALE AND RENTAL IN NEIGHBORHOODS AT A GENTLE DENSITY.
I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE UP HERE ABOUT IMPACT.
BUT THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED THIS POLICY, THEY'RE SEEING A RATE THAT WOULD EQUATE IN DECATUR TO PROBABLY TWO OR MAYBE THREE OF THESE PER YEAR. SO IT'S A VERY GENTLE DENSITY, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW THE MARKET RATE.
AND I THINK THE NICE THING ABOUT ALLOWING A MARKET RATE QUAD IS THAT YOU COULD HAVE MAYBE SOMEONE THAT CAN'T AFFORD A HOME IN DECATUR BUT WANTS TO OWN TO PURCHASE BE ABLE TO PURCHASE A QUAD UNIT AT A PRICE POINT.
SO THERE'S A WEALTH BUILDING ABILITY THERE.
I MENTIONED 600 COMMERCE DRIVE.
THAT COULD BE A PILOT FOR A POTENTIAL QUAD PLEX.
I'VE SPOKEN TO A COUPLE OF CHURCH PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED R60S.
THE CITY SCHOOLS WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE HOUSES THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD OWNS.
SO THESE ARE JUST KIND OF LIKE A REALM OF DIFFERENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT HAS KIND OF THIS MISSING MIDDLE OPPORTUNITY WRAPPED IN HERE, JUST SOME POTENTIALS THAT ARE OUT THERE. AND THE STATUS.
I USED THAT OUTREACH TO DO THE DRAFT AMENDMENTS, SO WE'VE INCORPORATED THESE IDEAS INTO THE UDO FRAMEWORK AND WE HAVE SOME POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND TRY TO ADDRESS CONCERNS WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND LOOKED AT IMPACT.
AND NOW WE ARE ON THE NEXT ROUND OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
SO I'VE SENT POSTCARDS OUT TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD AGAIN AND I'VE HAD THREE DECATUR FOCUS ARTICLES.
WE'VE BEEN DOING SOCIAL MEDIA AND I HAVE AN ONLINE SURVEY APP AND WE HAVE A FORUM COMING UP AUGUST 17TH THAT WILL COMPILE ALL OF THE QUESTIONS I'VE GOTTEN FROM THAT ONLINE SURVEY, AND WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE WITH A PANEL.
AND I'M JUST DOING MY CONTINUED OUTREACH TO DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT WANT ME TO COME AND TALK TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR THEIR CHURCH GROUP OR THEIR NEIGHBOR GROUP OR FRIEND GROUP OR BOOK CLUB.
MY HOPE IS THAT OUR FIRST MEETINGS WILL BE SOMETIME IN THE FALL AND THEN HOPEFULLY TO A VOTE SOMETIME JANUARY OR FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR IS MY GOAL? IN THE AUGUST 17TH MISSING MIDDLE FORUM WILL BE VIA ZOOM.
THE QUESTIONS WILL BE COMPILED AND WE'LL ANSWER AS MANY AS WE CAN BY THE PANEL, AND I'LL KEEP DOING THE INDIVIDUAL OUTREACH SESSIONS AND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC MEETINGS FALL OF 2022.
OKAY. I HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
THE FIRST IS THAT WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO INCENTIVIZE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN DECATUR, THE ADU REGULATIONS MAY WARRANT ANOTHER LOOK BECAUSE THEY ARE EXTRAORDINARILY STRICT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SIZE OF THE UNIT.
AND I'VE GOT A SITUATION MYSELF WHERE I HAVE A 12,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
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IF I WERE TO KNOCK EVERYTHING DOWN AND START OVER, I COULD BUILD A 45, 4700 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE WANT.
BUT MY HOUSE IS 1900 SQUARE FEET, AND I CAN ONLY HAVE 800 SQUARE FEET, EVEN THOUGH I COULD GET SO MUCH MORE IF I WENT THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF WHERE WE SAY WE WANT TO GO.
SO MAYBE THERE COULD BE SOME ANALYSIS WHERE YOU LOOK AT A WAY TO COMPARE WHAT SOMEBODY COULD GET UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES AND MAYBE PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY SO THAT THEY'RE NOT PENALIZED BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING IT IN TWO BUILDINGS RATHER THAN ONE BIG MCMANSION AS A WAY TO SORT OF ENCOURAGE THAT HOUSING TYPE.
BUT MY CLIENT, WHO'S A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER IN THAT WORLD, MISSING MIDDLE MEANS SOMETHING ELSE, WHICH I FOUND INTERESTING BECAUSE I WAS TELLING THEM, YOU'RE USING THAT TERM WRONG.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, NO, YOU ARE.
AND THE WAY THEY LOOK AT IT IS THE MISSING MIDDLE IS NOT A HOUSING TYPE OR DENSITY.
SO FOR THEM, MISSING MIDDLE MEANS NOT SOMEONE WHO CAN AFFORD THE FULL BLOWN AMENITY RICH LUXURY MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND NOT SOMEONE WHO FALLS BELOW THE THRESHOLD WHERE THEY QUALIFY FOR SOME SORT OF GOVERNMENT DESIGNATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEALING WITH AMI JUST REGULAR JOE WITH A REGULAR INCOME WHO JUST THEY'RE THE MISSING MIDDLE. THERE'S NO HOUSING FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT WEALTHY OR ENOUGH OR POOR ENOUGH TO QUALIFY FOR EITHER WAY.
SO I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE AS PLANNERS, WE DO A REALLY GOOD JOB AT LOOKING AT DENSITY AND CHARACTER AND NEGATIVE IMPACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT SOMETIMES WHEN WE DO ALL OF THAT, WE INADVERTENTLY PUSH UP THE COST TO DEVELOP HOUSING TO THE POINT WHERE YOU GET GREAT HOUSING, BUT YOU CAN'T GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND SO MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO SORT OF SCRUB THE UDO TO SEE WHETHER WE HAVE ANY OF THAT IN THERE AND MAYBE PROVIDE SOME KIND OF A MECHANISM FOR RELIEF TO GET THE KIND OF HOUSING THAT WE WANT TO SEE IN DECATUR.
YEAH, AND I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN THE ADU.
I'M WORKING REALLY HARD ON A PILOT.
BUT I WOULD REALLY MY GOAL IS TO TRY TO PILOT A FEW AND I'M SURE I'LL RUN HEAD ON INTO THESE PROBLEMS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN I WILL THE WAY THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY THAT I LEARN AS WELL AS TO JUST TRY TO GO INTO A PROJECT AND THEN HIT THE ROADBLOCKS AND THEN FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WELL THIS NEEDS TO BE CHANGED SO THAT I'D BE INTERESTED TO TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT YOUR HOUSE, TO KIND OF SEE WHAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEARN FROM THAT.
RIGHT. I THINK THEY'RE REALLY I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH THE ADUS IS THEY'RE VERY HARD TO FINANCE.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WITH THE LAND TRUST, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND CAN WE PARTNER WITH PEOPLE TO HELP KIND OF OUTSIDE OF US FUNDING IT, TO PARTNER WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.
IT WON'T FIX EVERYTHING. IT CAN BE A LONG PROCESS, BUT I THINK ALL THESE PIECES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT AND I REALLY THINK THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER TO HELP WITH HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. YOU EAT THE ELEPHANT ONE BITE AT A TIME.
I MEAN, ONE THING THAT'S PARTICULARLY INTERESTING ABOUT THE ADU IS THEY CAN BE PEOPLE WILL SELF DEVELOP THOSE AND SORT OF SECRETLY BUILD THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING WITHOUT IT BEING QUOTE A PROGRAM SIMPLY BY SOMEWHAT INCENTIVIZING IT AND MAKING THE ADU LARGE ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO BE A VIABLE FOR A LARGER AUDIENCE DWELLING SIZE.
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DESIGNED ADUS AND A FASTER PROCESS.SO THERE ARE SOME IDEAS OUT THERE THAT ARE REALLY GOOD RIGHT NOW.
SO RESEARCHING THOSE AND HAVING TO PULL ALL THAT TOGETHER.
SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
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THINGS BEFORE WE'RE DONE.YEAH, I CAN SHARE A FEW UPDATES.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PLANNING INITIATIVES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE CITY, TOO, THAT I'M PRIMARILY INVOLVED WITH IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN THAT KICK OFF OCCURRED IN MAY.
AND SO WE ARE WORKING WITH PEREZ PLANNING AND SO THEY ARE OUR CONSULTANTS.
THEY HAVE PULLED TOGETHER AN INCREDIBLE SUB CONSULTANT TEAM.
SO WE AS A TEAM HAVE JUST COMPLETED THE CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT OF BOTH OUR PROGRAMS AS WELL AS OUR FACILITIES. AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO BEEN COLLECTING INPUT ALMOST LIKE A COMMUNITY WIDE SWOT.
WHAT IS OUR STRENGTHS, OUR WEAKNESSES? WHERE ARE OUR OPPORTUNITIES, WHAT ARE OUR CHALLENGES? AND SO WE'VE COLLECTED THAT WE HAVE AN APP CALLED HAPPY FEET.
AND SO FOR THE PARKS AND FACILITIES THAT YOU MAY VISIT, YOU CAN PROVIDE US COMMENTS AND INPUT THROUGH HAPPY FEET.
SO IT'S JUST AN INTERACTIVE WAY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T USED BEFORE.
THE CITY OF ATLANTA USED IT AS PART OF THEIR PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.
AND SO WE'RE WE WANT TO TRY THAT OUT HERE IN DECATUR.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING INTO THE VISIONING PHASE ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE AS FAR AS NEW PROGRAMING.
AND, OH, MY GOSH, ALL I HEAR ABOUT, EVEN IN SOCIAL MEDIA AND MEDIA IS PICKLEBALL.
SO IS THAT ON OUR HORIZON? MORE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
BUT WE'RE WE'RE STARTING TO GO INTO THE VISIONING PHASE.
SO THE WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT SPRING FOR THE ADOPTION.
OKAY. SO I'LL KEEP YOU APPRIZED AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THE OTHER IS THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
WE ARE CALLING IT TOWN CENTER PLAN 2.0.
IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO WELL, YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER IT'S THE 1982 TOWN CENTER PLAN.
AND SO WE'RE IT'S TIME FOR AN UPDATE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE CALLING IT TOWN CENTER PLAN 2.0.
BUT IT'S A GREAT WAY TO PULL TOGETHER CURRENT ADOPTED PLANS THAT HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DOWNTOWN, THAT AFFECT DOWNTOWN, LOOKING AT OUR CODES AND ORDINANCES THAT HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON DEVELOPMENT AND PULLING THAT ALL TOGETHER AND BUILDING FROM THERE, TAKING A HEAVY LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCES, MAKING SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE WILL BE ABLE TO DO.
AND THEN WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH A SIMILAR VISIONING PHASE OF WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE? HOW DO WE WANT TO RE-ENVISION OUR DECATUR SQUARE, OUR STREETS, PEDESTRIANS, PASSAGEWAYS, YOU KNOW, UNDERUTILIZED LOTS TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
SO WE'LL BE DOING A MARKET STUDY AS WELL, A HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY FOR OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.
IT WILL BE AN UPDATE TO OUR HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY.
SO THERE'S A LOT IN STORE AND WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING STARTED.
THE TEAM THAT WAS SELECTED IS MKSK.
AND THEY HAVE AN ENGAGEMENT PROFESSIONAL HUMMINGBIRD.
THEY'RE BASED HERE IN ATLANTA.
SO THEY'RE PULLING TOGETHER A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLAN AND THEN A NUMBER OF OTHER SUB CONSULTANTS THAT WILL BE HELPING WITH THE MARKET STUDY AND THE HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY. BUT WE'RE GOING TO START OFF NOT WITH A BIG KICKOFF MEETING.
WE'RE GOING TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF AN INVERSE AND START MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDERS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO REALLY GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF ALMOST LIKE A SWOT.
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WHAT ARE THE STRENGTHS THAT THEY SEE? WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES? AND JUST START LISTENING.WE WANT TO LISTEN TO ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS.
FROM THERE, I THINK IT WILL BECOME EVIDENT WHO WILL BE A PART OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT 15 MEMBERS ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
THOSE ARE GOING TO BE HAPPENING I THINK THE LAST WEEK OF AUGUST.
AND SO IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE TWO OR THREE MEMBERS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION PARTICIPATE THAT AND IT Y'ALLS PARTICIPATION MIGHT BE DICTATED JUST BY THE TIME OF DAY. AND WHO CAN BE THERE.
RATHER THAN HAVING SEPARATE PUBLIC MEETINGS OR OPEN HOUSES, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO TRY TO INSTILL ACTIVITIES INTO EVENTS THAT ARE ALREADY PLANNED.
AND SO THERE'S THE PLANNING PARALYSIS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO AND JUST GO WHERE PEOPLE ARE AND CREATE ACTIVITIES AS PART OF THOSE EVENTS. SO WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE AND IT WORKED OUT PRETTY WELL.
ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST I KEPT ON THINKING BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY BIG DEAL FOR THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THE DECATUR LAND TRUST, BUT THE CONSTRUCTION FOR 230 COMMERCE DRIVE, WHICH IS THE OAK COTTAGE COURT THAT KRISTIN WAS MENTIONING, IT IS FINALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AFTER A FEW YEARS OF SILENCE ON THAT PROJECT.
IT IS THE GRADING AND THE CLEARING OF THE LAND FOR THE SIX COTTAGES HAVE STARTED AS OF WHAT, LAST FRIDAY.
SO JUST A FEW DAYS IN AND IT IS DIFFERENT.
THERE IS A NUMBER OF TREES THAT DID COME DOWN.
SO WE DO I POINT THIS OUT ONLY BECAUSE IT IS A BIG CHANGE FOR THAT STREETSCAPE.
IF YOU HEAD UP OR DOWN COMMERCE AND YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THAT CURVE, IT IS A BIG CHANGE.
BUT WE'RE JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
THANK YOU. DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NOTHING, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.