[00:24:21] I THINK THAT'S INTENTIONAL BECAUSE THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. [IV.a. The Planning Commission will consider its rules of procedures.] [00:24:27] LIKE, YOU KNOW, OUR OCTOBER MEETING, MAYBE WE WANT TO SAY 3 MINUTES PER SPEAKER, BUT IF IT'S A SMALLER CROWD THAT'S STILL SUBSTANTIAL. [00:24:37] WE COULD SAY 5 MINUTES. [00:24:40] I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO LEAVE IT TO THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR. [00:24:44] BUT IN THOUGH, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHALL EITHER SIDE BE GIVEN LESS THAN 10 MINUTES. IS IT TOTAL? 10 MINUTES. TOTAL. YES. SO DO WE NEED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T STIPULATE AN AGGREGATE OR A TOTAL TIME. TOTAL TIME FOR EACH SIDE. [00:25:01] OH, FOR EACH SIDE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MM HMM. SO THAT'S JUST CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING PROCEDURES LAW. SO WE DON'T RUN INTO 73 PEOPLE TALKING UNTIL TWO IN THE MORNING. UNTIL TWO IN THE MORNING. WELL, THE CHAIR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO LIMIT THE SPEAKER INDIVIDUAL SPEAKER TIMES. RECENTLY, WE SEE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. SO WE'RE NOT HERE TO SAY THAT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS A POTENTIAL. THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE IN THE GATHERING OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR OCTOBER MEETING AND THE CITY COMMISSION'S OCTOBER MEETING, WHERE THEY REVIEWED THE SAME MATTER WAS STRIKING BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT HERE ANYWHERE NEAR ONE OR 2:00 IN THE MORNING LOOKING AT THE EXACT SAME THING, THE EXACT SAME PROPONENTS AND OPPONENTS. SURE, SURE. YEAH. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE DRAFT RULES OF PROCEDURE? OR EITHER HERE OR ONLINE? ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AMONGST OURSELVES? JUST LOOKING AT THE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND EXCUSE ME. DID WE WANT TO SAY SPECIFICALLY? ANY MATERIALS RECEIVED AFTER WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED. BECAUSE PROPERLY SUBMITTED. I GUESS YOU'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE PEOPLE THAT WALK UP WITH THEIR HANDOUTS AND TRY TO. I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY IT SAYS THAT BASICALLY. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANTED TO SPELL THAT OUT. SO I'M SORRY. SO THIS IS RELATED TO, SO WHEN WE RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, ANYTHING THAT'S WRITTEN, WE NEED TO RECEIVE THAT BY 5:00 THE PREVIOUS DAY. THAT DOES NOT PRECLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT BEING PRESENTED AT THE MEETING OR HANDOUTS. THEY CAN STILL DO THAT. IT'S JUST THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THE MEETING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A CUTOFF TIME SO THAT STAFF HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT TO YOU ALL, TO POST IT ONLINE SO THAT YOU ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT YOURSELVES IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING AND JUST GIVE, GIVE FAIR REVIEW AND ENOUGH TIME FOR ALL THOSE WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENTS. BUT THERE HAS TO BE A CUTOFF, BUT THEY CAN STILL PRESENT IT THE DAY OF THE MEETING. AT THE MEETING? YEAH. I JUST WONDERED IF YOU WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY THAT ANYTHING SUBMITTED AFTER THE MEETING DATE IS NOT A PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD UNLESS THEY ARE PRESENT AT THE MEETING TO SUBMIT IT. NO, I MEAN AFTER THE MEETING. BECAUSE YOU RECEIVE COMMENTS AFTER AFTER SOMETIMES. WELL, MOST OF OUR STUFF IS STILL GOING TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. SO I GUESS THE RECORD ISN'T CLOSED UNTIL THEY HAVE THEIR FINAL RIGHT. AND I'LL PASS AT IT. I MEAN, I'LL I'LL FORWARD IT ON TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IF IF IT COMES IN AFTER. EVEN YOUR YOUR OWN PUBLIC MEETING TO GET INCORPORATED IN THE COMMISSION'S PACKET. SURE. JUST AS A COURTESY. I DO THAT. I DO THAT. UM. DID WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I'M SO SORRY. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE RULES OF PROCEDURE? I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, AS NOTED WITH THE CHANGES IN THE RED LINES AND. THE HANDFUL OF ADJUSTMENTS WE JUST MADE. YOU KNOW, THE SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ADOPT THESE RULES OF PROCEDURE WITH THE REVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THEM SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THAT ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND THAT BRINGS US TO OUR LAST ITEM ON THE PRINTED AGENDA, WHICH IS. [IV.b Proposed 2023 Meeting Schedule] [00:30:03] I'M SORRY. WHEN DO THEY GET ADOPTED? JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY. WELL, SO FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU ALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ADOPT AND APPROVE YOUR OWN PROCEDURES. SO I'LL BE FINALIZING THIS. I'LL SEND IT AROUND TO EACH OF YOU, BUT I WILL ALSO BE POSTING IT ONLINE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WEB PAGE SO THAT IT'S PART OF PUBLIC RECORD. NOW, THAT LEADS US TO THE PROPOSED 2023 MEETING SCHEDULE. SO AS IS STANDARD, THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR WHERE WE LOOK AHEAD TO 2023 AND WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE SECOND TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH. AND OF COURSE, WE MEET AGAIN THE SECOND TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH, EXCEPT FOR IN JULY. WE DO TAKE A SHORT BREAK FOR THE SUMMER HOLIDAY, BUT WE ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT HOLIDAYS AND SCHOOL SCHEDULES. SO IN FEBRUARY, THAT PARTICULAR DATE IS IN ITALICS BECAUSE LET ME GO INTO THE WAS I THINK THE NEXT WEEK IS NOT A GOOD DAY. SO IT'S IT'S SCHOOL. IT'S YES, THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE SPRING I'M SORRY, THE WINTER BREAK IS THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY 13TH. AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR SCHEDULES ARE OR IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND YOU TAKE OFF FOR VACATION. BUT NORMALLY YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR MEETING THAT TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 14TH. ALSO VALENTINE'S DAY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER OUT ON A DATE. I DON'T KNOW. BUT BUT SO SEVENTH IT IS SO YEAH. SO I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT WE MAYBE LOOK THE WEEK BEFORE TO TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 7TH. THE REASON I'M NOT LOOKING TO THE WEEK AFTER IS BECAUSE THAT IS THE THE COMMISSION, BUT ALSO PRESIDENTS DAY. IT'S TYPICALLY WHEN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETS. I THINK THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MIGHT BE LOOKING AT HOLDING IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE A BUSY WEEK. SO MAYBE SO IT'S THE SEVENTH, IF YOU DON'T MIND. THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING. YOU'RE ONLY MISSING THE SECOND TUESDAY BY A DAY. I WOULD. YES. I'D SAY YOU'RE OKAY. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT SOME EXPLANATION. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE ON SCHEDULE FOR THE SECOND TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH. AND SO I'M I AM RECOMMENDING AND REQUESTING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THIS 2023 MEETING SCHEDULE, AND THEN WE CAN POST THAT TO THE WEBSITE AND LET OUR FUTURE APPLICANTS KNOW WHEN WHEN THE DATES ARE. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE PROPOSED 2023 MEETING SCHEDULE? YES. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE 2023 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE AS PRESENTED. DO I HAVE A SECOND. SO WE HAVE A SECOND THAT HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ADOPT THE DRAFT 2023 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE AS PRESENTED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA. BUT BEFORE WE GO, THERE ARE TWO OF US WHO WILL NO LONGER BE GRACING US WITH THEIR PRESENCE ON THE SECOND TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH. TODD OHLANDT AND LORI LELAND-KIRK, THANK YOU FOR HANGING IN THERE WITH US ON ALL THIS STUFF. FOR THIS THESE LAST FEW YEARS, YOUR LEADERSHIP, YOUR WISDOM, YOUR JUDGMENT WAS ALWAYS APPRECIATED AND EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN MOVING THINGS ALONG. WE WILL BE. IS IT FETTING OR FADING? WE WILL BE FETTING YOU APPROPRIATELY AFTER THE MEETING. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A LITTLE ACCENT. YES. YES. DO YOU GUYS WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS BEFORE WE ADJOURN FOR THE MASSES? [00:35:02] WELL, I'LL JUST SAY IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO BE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THESE SIX YEARS. AND I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU. AND I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR COMMISSION AND AND THE WAY THAT WE DELIBERATE VERY OPENLY AND MANY OTHER PLANNING COMMISSIONS, THEY HAVE BRIEFINGS AHEAD OF TIME. AND I THINK THAT IT'S HARD TO DELIBERATE OPENLY. AND SOMETIMES YOU IT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING STUPID. BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE TRULY MAKING THESE DECISIONS RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF EVERYONE, HAVING FULL DISCUSSIONS IN FRONT OF EVERYONE. AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT. SO THANK YOU. SIMILARLY, I'LL SAY IT WAS A PRIVILEGE AND HONOR TO BE PART OF THE COMMISSION. I'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM EVERYONE HERE. I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT THE STAFF HAS DONE ALONG THE WAY IN TERMS OF THEIR PATIENCE AND THEIR PREPARATION AND THEIR EDUCATION FOR ALL OF US. AND CERTAINLY THE COMMISSIONERS APPRECIATED MIKE AND HAROLD YOUR LEADERSHIP ALONG THE WAY AND MARK'S BEFORE THAT AND OTHER PEOPLE. SO IT'S BEEN FUN. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND MAYBE WE'LL OCCASIONALLY BE HERE ON IMPORTANT EVENTS, SO WE JUST WON'T BE SITTING UP HERE WITH YOU GUYS. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IT HAS BEEN FUN WATCHING YOUR PERSONAL ART ON THE COMMISSION BECAUSE YOU GUYS CAME IN AT THE SAME TIME AND YOU WERE LIKE OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM BECAUSE LAURIE WAS THE OLD HAND WHO WAS IN THE BUSINESS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, SHE WALKED IN THE YEAR OLD. [LAUGHING] SHE'S GOING TO PUNCH YOU. LAURIE AND I MET IN 1995 AND WE WERE BOTH ON THE PLANNING STAFF IN ATLANTA. YES. BECAUSE PLANNERS. SO WHEN I SAY OLD HAND, SHE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LITTLE BIT, WHEREAS TODD CAME AND HE WAS LIKE, OH, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND HE WAS VERY, VERY RETICENT IN THE VERY BEGINNING. AND YET THAT GUY IS GONE BECAUSE THE TITLE LAND THAT EXISTS TODAY IS LIKE, OH, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. LET'S BACK THIS TRUCK UP. SO I HAVE ENJOYED WATCHING THAT HAPPEN. SO YOU WERE BOTH BE MISSED? ABSOLUTELY, YES. BUT I SUSPECT THAT YOU'LL ONLY BE OUT FOR A LITTLE WHILE BEFORE THE CITY FINDS A WAY TO PULL YOU BACK IN IN SOME OTHER CAPACITY. THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH FOR YOUR YEARS AND YEARS OF SERVICE. ANGELA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE BODY BEFORE WE ADJOURN? JUST AGAIN, TO ECHO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SIX YEARS OF SERVICE FOR EACH OF YOU. THANKS FOR HANGING IN THERE. THANKS FOR BEING PATIENT WITH US. AND JUST THE DECISION MAKING, THE TRANSPARENCY IS WHAT STANDS OUT TO ME THE MOST FOR THIS BOARD. AND THANK YOU FOR CONTRIBUTING TO THAT DURING THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS. SO THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US ON TRACK AND DOING WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE, THEN WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. MILLER TIME. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.